Burning Atlanta

This guy just doesn't get it, because he doesn't want to get it.  He wants to stick his head in the sand and blow smoke out of his ass.  He's good at that.

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This gets so old. They get caught time after time. With a little luck somebody checks their immigration status and they MIGHT get tossed. But give them a little while, and they're back here committing more crimes.

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Ehh, considering some illegals pay up to $70,000 to be smuggled into this country, I'm not getting overly upset about higher fees to come legally.

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There's a couple of good parts to this story. This alleged slime ball might have gotten away with it but, we assume, a DNA check of felons might have nabbed him. Excellent.

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Usually, I post an article and comment on it. But I wanted to step out of my box and address something that I've debated a million times to the point of nausea.  The "good for the economy" defense/justification for allowing another amnesty or increasing our levels of legal immigration is nothing but an argument borne out of total desperation from the pro-illegal side.

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I, like many, have long looked forward to the demise of Fidel and the hope of a brighter future for Cuba. Sadly, I don't expect any major changes after Fidel takes up playing a harp. Just for grins, did you know Miami has plans for a huge party when Fidel takes a dirt nap? Anyway, this nation needs to send out a very loud and clear message that playtime is over and no more of this "Wet foot, dry foot" crap. Cubans should be treated the same as anyone else. Cut off the incentives, damnit.

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Basically, I've given up on most democrats showing any spine, though there are a few, and have focused on a few republicans that I consider traitorous slime. Graham is one of the worst.

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(yawn) In case you aren't aware, polls are commonly manipulated to achieve whatever agenda driven results are being sought. I laugh about a couple of things in this article. Notice the first line or so, then notice how the poll results kind of go in a different direction.

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I'm so glad Georgia did this, every state should do the same, and more. And the textbook snivel from the pro-illegal bunch is always expected and delivered. It never fails. "But...but, they're going to be racially profiling. But...but, it's hurting the trust of the immigrant community towards the police. They'll be less likely to report crimes." (barf)

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Happens all too often. The article doesn't mention if the killer was arrested multiple times and not deported, which seems to be the norm.

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Very sad. A 31 year old man doing his job trying to keep our borders secure.

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Too funny because we all know where this is going.

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Why let these filth live?

Fry 'em

An illegal immigrant will spent the rest of his life in prison for his role in the brutal beating and rape of a Limestone County Teenager last summer.

Investigators said Hernandez and Javier Guzman Martinez, who's also serving a life sentence, approached an 18-year-old girl outside a strip mall in Mexia.

According to police, they later ran her off Highway 171, then kidnapped, raped and stabbed her for two hours, before leaving her for dead near Coolidge.

Why can't our worthless, Washington, D.C. cowards mandate this across the nation?

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Excellent!! I want all those seditious bastards to boycott their asses off. I want all illegals to boycott the roads, schools, hospitals and any government freebies and services they may get. I want them to boycott everything, including jobs they illegally hold, for at least a year. I'd like for them to boycott the whole United States by getting their gate-crashing, law-ignoring asses the hell out. And I don't give a damn if they're from Mexico, Canada or the South Pole.

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The GOP needs to dump some of the appeasers and take a stand for this nation. The democrats are in virtual white-flag waving lockstep. Thankfully, 14 or 15 dem senators crossed over to defeat the last attempt at an amnesty. But here comes Specter and it's going to be another load of crap. "But it's not an amnesty."

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I don't think they'll win but I'm glad they're fighting. None of the articles I've seen mention the FACT that thousands of suspected illegals left town before their laws were passed. That, in itself, helped ease the problem.

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It just sickens me. And we know the drill: He'll probably get bounced out of jail early and be deported. Then, some time in the future, he'll be caught again, here, after committing some other crime, if it's not in a sanctuary area.

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This comes up every once in a while and, often, I forget some of the numbers or the source for those numbers. Here's a story about an illegal who was deported for a sexual assault and was caught coming across the border a week later.  Oh, I meant to mention the FACT that trying to come across the border, ILLEGALLY, is a CRIME in itself. So, you could say that EVERY illegal caught at the border is a criminal. That's 100% of them.

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What a little cry baby. What a pathetic sympathy-seeking excuse of a columnist, but he's not the only one. The poor, poor, mistreated gate-crashers. What part of "Get out" do they not understand?

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We/I tend to think of drop houses as being remote or in a run down neighborhood but that's not the case. They can be anywhere. Gee, I wonder if the leasee will ever be found?

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I grow so tired of this. Any and every act targeted at illegals is denounced by the hand-wringing liars as "Racist." What race is an illegal? Who are the real racists? Those that think that because you are a certain color then the laws shouldn't apply to you or those that think the laws should apply to everyone?

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No surprise on this one. Lots of people were holding out hope but. The GOOD news is that a whole bunch of illegals got out of town whenb the issue came up, same as in Flowery Branch. So, that's a big victory in itself. AND they've sent out the right message.

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I haven't really looked into this but I hope it's not true. I do know Stabenow was one of those democrats with a spine that crossed over to oppose the amnesty. That speaks well of her.

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This is a good idea but I'd still like to see a federally mandated program that checked every person arrested. So, in this instance they're looking at a "Task force" to help target illegals that are involved in "serious" crimes. i think the fact that they're here is a serious crime.

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As you who have followed this issue know, some businesses in Arizona are crying to the heavens about pending laws concerning weeding out illegal aliens and penalties for those employers that ignore the law. Seems one of their crocodile tear excuses had to do with the government not being capable of handling the large request for verification. Seems that's not the case.

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This is great. This shows some real spine and leadership in addressing the problem. Illegal aliens are everyone's problem. And the coward's mantra of "It's a federal matter and we don't want to get involved" is a load of mule muffins. The part they don't mention is how many, or few, will actually be deported under this plan. BUT, it's a huge step in the right direction.

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This could be a very, very, good thing. This could be a great thing. The problem is that I'm confronted with the pathetic history of this nation in enforcing the immigration laws. So, I'm guardedly optimistic. IF the feds toughen up the bullshit SSN provisions for employers to follow this could be a huge stake right thru the employers of illegals hearts.

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Kyl has cut his own throat in a huge ear-to-ear way. He's still trying to sell that BS about the failed amnesty that if people just really knew all the facts they would have supported it. My ass. Now, this is either face saving or who knows what's rreally in his mind? Take the time to read the comments below the article. He hasn't exactly won any friends.

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Is there anybody that doesn't know this drill? Virtually every chamber of commerce in this country opposes any measure that targets illegal aliens or those that hire them. They'll give the typical PR BS that they're really for people abiding by the law, but these laws unfairly burden business. Translation: Some businesses have become addicted to cheap illegal labor and they don't want to do anything to halt the flood. As long as there are plenty of low-paid workers to go around they really don't give a damn about the rest of the country.

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Sharpton's only honesty rests solidly in the fact that he's such an unapologetic media whore, demagogue, and race-baiting poverty pimp. (I mean that in a good way) Not surprisingly, he's decided that he's being rejected as a leader in the "black community" so he's decided to cater to the illegal alien community. Since he's so focused on race perhaps he needs to get a sombrero and shove a burrito up his culo.

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Screw this company. Do us a favor, don't bid. Better still, go out of business. I'd love to see an American citizen of Hispanic descent win some bids. Some citizen that believes in playing by the rules and not hiring illegals. There would be some poetic justice in that.

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(yawn) It NEVER changes. Catch somebody violating immigration laws then it's "racism, bigotry," etc... The reason is that so many have gotten away with so much for so long. The problem with immigration in this country transcends illegals. There are all sorts of abuses of the system, loopholes that are continually being exploited because of the lack of ENFORCEMENT. People lie to get visas. They lie about why they're coming here. They lie about all sorts of things to get here then never leave.

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This isn't a suprise, this is expected. The problem is how do you deal with it? Some border patrol vehicles are looking more and more like "War Wagons," covered in heavy screens to prevent some of the rocks from smashing them. Where's our good neighbor, Mexico? Why aren't they taking action? Ahh, because they don't care? Ahh, because their citizens throwing rocks at our Border Patrol is considered sport? Why isn't somebody in our government having a little talk with them?  Why is our government so cowardly and appeasing dealing with those corrupt jerks?

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These people make me want to hurl chunks all over my 20" screen. I get so tired of the textbook, "Racist" claims of the pro-illegal imbeciles. Please read his typical idiocy and I'll copy off my comment left after his rantings.

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DALLAS (AP) - More than 120 street gang members have been arrested in raids in North Texas cities.

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There are parts of the border that are practically a war zone. There are many parts of the border where locals rarely go outside without a pistol on their hip. Drug and people smugglers, bandits that target them, rapists, thieves, you name it. Commit whatever crime and slip back across the border. Some even steal human cargoes and ransom them to family members.

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Actually, I have mixed feelings on this but for a different reason. As always, anytime any law goes into effect that impacts illegals the bleeding-heart brigade comes out and screams that it's Anti-Latino" or racist. My ass.

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NAUSEATING. I blogged about part of this story before. The pro-illegal bunch of seditious, treasonous, candy-ass bastards in New Haven decided to aid and abet illegals by giving them some sort of ID card.  About the same time ICE did a "round up" of people on their list of wanted illegals in that area. So, of course, the local snot-noses are screaming "foul" and claiming that the only reason ICE did that was in retaliation for their issuing ID cards. I don't buy it.  ICE has a history of taking a long time to initiate action in any area. So, makes me think this was in the works before New Haven decided to grab ankle.

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The standard playbook responses from the pro-illegal groups get so old. Can't they think of anything besides "poor starving immigrants trying to feed their families" and "racial profiling?"

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I don't care if he's from Mexico or Canada. No papers, GET OUT. This is only one small story but seems to validate what many, myself included, have been screaming for years: "Do away with the incentives and they'll leave on their own." In this guy's instance, it kinda sounded like he reached a point where it just wasn't worth it to stay here.

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This is sickening beyond belief. As far as the story goes, the alleged wasn't an illegal. BUT he escapes trial thru the goverment's inability to find a translator. another reason Engish should be required for immigrants and, even, asylum seekers should have to take na English test within whatever amount of time. This alleged jerk had attended schools and community college here. Go figure.

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Let me explain this to those that don't quite get it. Illegals, and others, start hanging out around whatever area hoping that someone will hire them off the street. Home Depots, etc.., act as a magnet because these work seekers know that contractors frequent building supply stores. Hence, the contractors might need some cheap labor to go with that lumber, paint, whatever.

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Someone, here, mentioned that all is not perfect with Arpaio, and I agree. BUT he's a no-nonsense, playtime is over, type. If someone would like to suggest someone better that's ok with me. Look, if I was an American with a tan I wouldn't want to be hassled either. And some, regardless, will be using that as an excuse for why they were stopped, questioned, whatever.  At least, Arpaio is taking the "bull" by the horns rather than being a sideline sitting candy-ass with the pad "it's not my job" attitude/excuse.

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Yeah, gee, it's not really fair to look at the minuses but not the plusses. Are there any?

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What part of "aiding and abetting illegal aliens is against the law" do you weak-kneed candy-asses not understand? It's one thing to turn  blind eye and play pretend. It's another thing to help people that have shown a total disregard for our laws. All I ask is for people to play by the rules. I have to play by the rules or pay the consequences, but for some reason illegal aliens don't and are rewarded for it.

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I've been harping on this for a long while. Our enforcement targeting illegals is inexcusable. We don't treat any other group of criminals with the total disregard that we have for illegals. Citizens don't get the breaks that illegal aliens can get and there are many examples of that.

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Maybe this can have a domino effect. More get deported, more get the news, fewer come. And maybe some of the deportees' families decide to leave, also.

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This is exactly the kind of scum that we need to keep out of this country. Whether by fence, cameras, manpower, whatever it takes it would be worth it.

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Boot These Slime

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We hear a lot of the  whatever state "just passed the toughest laws in the nation against illegal aliens" stuff but I'd give Arizona the award for leading the charge.

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Hey,

Guess what somebody found in their grapes from Costco?

EEEK

ANDOVER, Minn. -- Judy Reardon found something unexpected in the four-pound box of grapes she brought home from Costco in Coon Rapids last week. Something dangerous. As she washed off the grapes and put them in plastic bags last week, she saw something move -- a spider. With the help of her husband, she captured it alive in a jar.  Yep, a Black Widow. Wash that produce really well. (My Sis shops at a Costco in California)

This makes me sick. Of course, I'm biased and loathe spineless appeasement when a strong stand is required.  Seems that Vista passed some rules requiring employers who wanted to hire day laborers get a permit. Did anyone think about requiring day laboreres to get a permit? Background check, immigration check? Ahhh, probably not. Now, someone is trying to out those that got these permits. tsk..tsk..tsk.. It would just break my heart.

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My difference is that I bash all of them that supported the amnesty. And I think Trent Lott's comments about having to do something about talk radio was very telling about his attitude. It was like "If they just didn't say anything we could have slid this one by."

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I've seen other stories about this. Actually, you've  got to play by the rules, cops or robbers. But I'd like to see ICE set up to get instant warrants anytime they have some evidence that an illegal is hiding out at some address. And, to my knowledge, if they have "probable cause" the doors are coming open, one way or the other.

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I know a little Spanish, very little. But if I remember correctly the name translates into "The Rich Chicken." Ahh, very fitting name according to this article.

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I plead ignorance in not knowing  about the two Goldwaters and their, seemingly, different political leanings.  But I ran into the Goldwater name on a list of pro-illegal business types opposing the anti-illegal legislation in Arizona and thought  "Humm, didn't I just post something about a Goldwater in Arizona that had a 'tough shit' attitude towards the illegal supporters?" So, I looked it up. My apologies for my ignorance. Won't be the last time.

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I'm sure I've mentioned this before but this just validates my, and others, contentions.

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It gets so old. Yes, I have some sympathy for children that have to pay a price for the stupidity and criminal behaviour of their parents. How is this any different than circumstances of an American citizen criminal that goes to prison for whatever offense? "But you're splitting up families."

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I've stayed away from this issue for several reasons.

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I hope what I'm about to say pisses some people off. I believe those that will be the most pissed off and indignant will be those that engage in such practices.

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This article is way skimpy and I'm not sure what to make of it. But big red flags went up when I read one part of it.

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Excellent! I'm still a little surprised that Waukegan would become a battleground on such an issue. At any rate, it passed, that's a good thing, and it will empower the police to start weeding out criminals that shouldn't be here. This should be mandatory for every police department and jail in this nation. Every person arrested should be run thru an immigration check.

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I couldn't agree more. We shouldn't be cutting ANY enforcement along our borders.

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There have been a number of police departments getting on the 287(g) program to weed out illegals from their jails. This is the first time, that I'm aware of, that the illegals and supporters are having such a fit. The only thing that comes to mind is they must be deeply entrenched in that area and resent any efforts to enforce the laws.

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Ohhh, this is too much. Basically, they're screaming "foul" because, they contend, the police didn't have probable cause or a warrant to enter their homes. Yeah, we're all supposed to play by the rules but there's something that bothers me about people that have no concern for the law claiming their rights were violated by law enforcement. Especially, when law enforcement was after a really bad scumbag type.

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This is good. I forgot about the tag thing. Yeah, it would be nice if they could find a way to cut off the illegals getting tag renewals thru the mail or online but every bit helps.

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Oh, I'll be crying in my pillow all night over this one.  Remember, innocent until proven guilty. These are just unsubstantiated allegations. Could happen to anybody. Ok? Now can we hang him?

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I'm glad to see another article about this, haven't seen one in a while. I thought they were cutting back on this as they couldn't handle the numbers but, happily, seems I was wrong. Why isn't this the policy along the entire border? It sends out exactly the right message.

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This was an extremely low level of vandalism but I oppose it. If he's an American citizen and owns that business, assuming he's not violating any local ordinances, he can put up a sign that favors turning over the US to Mexico or whatever the hell else he wants to put up. And if Americans disagree and don't want to spend their money at his business, so be it.

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The powers that be are cutting back on the numbers of NG on the southern border. I think that's a huge mistake but I did want to thank them for their efforts.

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Screw them. There's about one drop of truth in the whole article, I'll point it out in a second, but the rest is the standard "boo-hoo..what about the economy" BS we've heard a zillion times.

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80 a day!!! How can any "working girl" service 80 men a day? She wouldn't even have time to do her nails.

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This is a great editorial concerning the recent decision in Prince William to implement some anti-invader statutes.

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This article is way skimpy. So they had warrants for 60 and arrested 27 people. But how many of those 27 were on their list or just happened to get caught up in the "raid?"

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I've never even heard this guy though I am familiar with his name. I busted out laughing at his comments but, hey, I have a sick sense of humor and can take a joke. I've said the same thing about that illegal twit hiding out at a "church" when she went on some fast or such. Was somebody's itty-bitty feelings hurt by that? I sure hope so.

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Seems some businesses aren't too happy with the new laws mandating a check on employees SSNs. Too damned bad. Despite their feigned bullshit the bottom line is that they want CHEAP labor, legal or not.

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You'll have to click on the link on the page to see a video of the sign. Basically, it opposes amnesties and a North American union. and, of course as we all know, if you oppose amnesties then you're a mean-spirited, racist, anti-Hispanic hater, etc...

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All I can do is comment on this sounds. It "SOUNDS' real good, but not good enough. Why aren't some of these company dirtbags going to jail?

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More and more areas of the country are passing laws targeting illegals. Excellent. Way too little way too late but much better than doing nothing or maintaining the "status quo." Pay attention to the pad, pro-illegal, textbook arguments, they never change.

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How in the hell does an illegal making $10 an hour afford 4 houses? Hummm?

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This isn't news. This has been going on for a while. The reasoning behind it is if they're repatriated to their homes, instead of simply being released across the border, then they're more likely to stay put. But this guy's attitude is unbelievable. It's like, "Hey, thanks for the free trip home but I'll be back after the visit."

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This is so common, and it's so disgusting, because of "Don't ask, Don't tell" sanctuary policies. Because of candy-assed pass the buck cowards who want to escape their obligations to protect the public, these (alleged) scumbags are released time-after-time up to the point where someone dies before anyone takes action. This is one of the problems I have with Georgia's new laws. They should check the immigration status of EVERY person arrested. They only target felons and DUIs.

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Humm? Actually, I have mixed feelings about this but, overall, doesn't bother me assuming the labor is voluntary. But I still feel like the farmers, just like any other business, should raise their wages to attrack legal workers. If the fed wanted to cut them slack through a tax break or subsidy program, I don't know, but that might, also, work. And there's the H-2A for bringing in immigrant workers.

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I can just about guarantee that if you, I, or any other citizen were caught in that circumstance we'd never see the light of a free day. Something tells me they'll get a little time then deported. And the sad part is they'll probably be back at it in no time.

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Georgia passed some good laws targeting illegals and their employers. Not all are going into immediate effect but are being phased in.  The two best: a requirement for contractors doing business with the state to verify employees thru a federal program, and a immigration check on every person arrested for DUI or a felony. No, these laws aren't tough enough but they send the right message: "Dear Illegals, Get out."

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This is part of the equation that needs to be addressed. I've brought it up before but the bottom line is there are about 600,000 illegals running loose that have already been ordered DEPORTED but they remain. There is NO excuse. This article clears up a couple of points of which I've only had a limited understanding.

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Basically, the ACLU opposes the will of the people at every chance when it comes to protecting illegal aliens. Also, they engage in the ever so popular excuse of "racial profiling" which, as I'll point out, is BULLSHIT.

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Oh, heaven forbid that law enforcement actually does its job. Can't stand for that. It spreads fear in the "immigrant" community. Well, go cry to your mommies. I don't shed any tears when somebody gets a ticket, goes to jail for stealing, or gets arrested for living in this country without permission. And I'll share this little pearl of wisdom with all of you gate-crashers who whine about living in fear of arrest. You don't have to live in fear, you can get the hell out anytime you'd like.

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Dear Business,

Play by the rules or go out of business. It's you cheating, low-life scumbags that are the main problem and reason why we have 12-20 million illegals running around. You don't give a damn about this nation as long as you can maintain a cheap slave labor force. So, go up on your wages and get legal workers or shut down. A study showed that if they doubled the wages paid to lettuce pickers the price would only go up a few cents a head. The American people will be happy to pay a little more to cut off jobs to illegals. Fewer illegals means less money paid for crimes, school costs, medical costs, etc...

Boo-Hoo

Immigration attorneys also think the Department of Homeland Security will move forward with a proposed federal regulation that would increase a business' liability for employing workers whose Social Security numbers don't match government databases.

"There will be mass layoffs as soon as that regulation is published," said Laura Reiff, an immigration attorney at Greenberg Traurig's McLean, Va., office and co-chair of the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition.

"In Florida, it could be catastrophic," said Wendy Smith, an employment lawyer at the Tampa office of Fisher & Phillips. OMG!!! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!

Business groups like EWIC contended immigration reform was needed to fix a dysfunctional system. Employers in many industries can't find enough legal workers, document fraud makes it hard to determine a worker's status, and the failure of Congress to address these problems has prompted states and localities to pass their own immigration laws.

By putting off action on immigration reform, the Senate just made the status quo worse, Reiff said. BULLSHIT! Yeah, the status quo of non-enforcement and letting you weasels get away with breaking the laws may be coming to a close. You jerks may have to go up on wages. Breaks my heart.

A bigger threat to businesses could come from the federal government. Business groups had urged the Department of Homeland Security to wait for immigration reform legislation before it issues a final regulation outlining what steps businesses should take when they receive letters notifying them that an employee's name and Social Security number don't match federal records. Now that Congress has punted on the issue, the department may soon implement that regulation, immigration attorneys predict.

As proposed last summer, businesses who receive these "no match" letters should follow certain steps, such as checking the accuracy of their own records and notifying the employee of the problem. If the discrepancy can't be resolved within two months, the employer must fire the employee or risk being charged with violating immigration laws.

The regulation won't "let people ignore problems that have stared them in the face before," Smith said.

Excellent! That's the way the system should have been run for the last 20 years. No match on an employee's information? They get a short amount of time to straighten it out or they are history. The way the system currently works the employer is supposed to notify the employee and that's it. Some SCUM employers will simply sign up the same illlegal under a different name and SSN. Better would be a federal mandate that every employee be screened thru the Basic Pilot Program. You heard all the cries to the heavens over what a huge burden that puts on employers? BULLSHIT. Ever notice how much trouble it is for them to swipe your credit card? Ever waited for an instant background check before buying a pistol? They can go cry to somebody else because their crocodile tears don't work with me.

Many workers who have been using fake Social Security numbers will lose their jobs, but "they're not just going to pack up their bags and go back to Mexico," Reiff said.

Many will stay in the United States and work in the underground economy instead, she predicted.  "Oh, boo-hoo, boo-hoo. You're forcing them to go deeper into the shadows." Kiss my insensitive ass. They can always LEAVE or be found and tossed. No jobs, no reason to be here.

I love this. I nearly cheered when I read it. There is no question that there is some racism spewing from both sides of the illegal alien issue. But it saddens me to see people play into the pro-illegal crowd's hands by making anti-Latino/Mexican remarks. I've said it many times, I've got nothing good to say about Mexico and nothing bad to say about Mexicans/Latinos/Italians/Greeks/whatever. You an American Hispanic. God bless you. You and your culture have added as much to the tapestry of this nation as anybody else. You an illegal, get out. I don't care where you're from, if you can't come legally then don't come.

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Seems some other sheriffs are concerned about the costs. Some aren't too concerned because they're not having a flood of illegals.

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This gets so old. I'm so tired of these bleeding-heart, lying, pieces of smoke blowing puke.

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This bitch resorts to the typical groundless rhetoric of the snot-noses.

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It is NOT my contention that all illegals are violent child rapers. It is not my intent to try and villify every illegal as a criminal scum. It is my intent to make people aware of the fact that too many illegals are running around that shouldn't be here. Especially those that are arrested multiple times and the system fails to find out they're illegals and/or deport them. And all too often this is the result, or worse. It's bad enough we have to deal with our own murdering, raping slime. Why do we tolerate this?

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As this article says, declaring itself a "sanctuary" to illegal aliens is mainly a political gesture. BUT if that policy conflicts with federal law then all federal funding should be cut off.

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Excellent. This should be a federal mandate. EVERY person arrested should be run through a federal date base to check their immigration status. The only thing that struck me as odd about this resolution had to do with them asking. "Hey, Won Garcia O'Brian, you here illegally?" "Ahhh, nope."

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I'm still amazed at our incredibly biased media's coverage over the failure of the amnesty. All we heard were the pundits reveling in the so called split between pro-reform republicans and their conservative base. We heard some senators trying to sell us the baloney that it was just a small but vocal minority having a fit over the "immigration reform" package and if they really knew the details even they would support it. We even heard Trent Lott blaming talk radio for his phones ringing off the wall.  Also, we heard virtually NOTHING about democrats catching total hell but there is no doubt, despite the glaring silence from the media.

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Ehhh, another poll. You know how I feel about polls and I'm not too big on the AP/Ipsos but this is just another one that supports what we already know. People would like to see more security on our borders and we know the government isn't serious. I'm of the opinion it will take a mushroom cloud over Houston and it be traceable to the southern border before they'll get serious. We know that we can't stop all bad guys or illegals and that a lot of "security" is just a scarecrow but we need more scarecrows.

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I'm glad there are some that have a grasp of the issue and can spell it out rather than hiding under their desks in fear of offending somebody. I know nothing about Senator Thune but he voted the right way on cloture and he has the guts to share some of his thinking in this article.

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This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that happens all the time all over this country. This is EXACTLY the type of thing that causes steam to come out of my ears. At least, according to the article, ICE was notified at some point. In many/most instances ICE is never notified and illegals are treated like any other citizen. Keep in mind, innocent until proven guilty and it didn't clearly establish he was here illegally.

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I've long argued that illegal immigration is not a party issue with the voters. Most Americans, regardless, don't favor an amnesty and want to see our borders secured and our immigration laws enforced. I think the people will let another amnesty slide but want to see this government get serious about enforcement, first. However, looking at how the politicians vote is a different thing.

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This is too funny. It's wrong, but understandable, to assume that just because there are a large number of foreign speakers at a job site that they are illegal aliens. But, ahhh, in this instance it would make me tend to believe that some of them may not have had their papers in order. (smirk)

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I feel for these guys and gals. Going into a tunnel after a bunch of crosseros, well, you hope they're only crosseros and not drug runners, and somebody makes a threatening move. "Bang."

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Again, farmers screaming for CHEAP labor and lots of it. Anywhere in the article does it mention the H-2A? Hell no. Typically, they want to keep the public ignorant. They want to act like there's no means for them to get legal immigrant labor. That's a LIE. All I can do is relate what I've seen and read. I've never worked on nor run a farm. But the FACT is that there is a temp worker program for farmers and it doesn't have a cap. They can bring in as many workers as they need, if they're willing to jump thru the hoops and pay the price. From what I do know about the H-2A it could stand some work to make it more user friendly. AND there needs to be some means to keep illegals on the farm and they not just use the program as a means into this country then "poof."

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This was totally expected. "The sky is falling." How long until a pro-illegal group denounces the new bill as "anti-immigrant," "racist" or "a hate bill?"

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I'm shocked. I'm sure there's much more to the story but from the brief article I'm impressed. Sounded like a good decision and asking for the legislature to clean up some of the bill was a good idea.  Now, depending on how the bill was drawn up and how many it affects, let's hear them scream, business  and illegals.

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I'm just blown away by the dysfunctional logic, if you can call it logic. The feeling of entitlement is just more than I can take.

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Napolitiano is a whack job. She bounces around like a Tijuana whore on amphetamines when it comes to illegal aliens.  One moment she's calling out the National Guard, the next moment she's vetoing anti-illegal legislation. Then the people have to have the matter put on the ballot to override her idiocy. Then she tries to water down whatever law the people vote in. Go figure. On some earlier issue she came out with the most bogus possible excuses for her cowardice. See my earlier thread on "Napolitano Needs To GO." Anyway, what will she do, this time? Spine or no spine?

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I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before and others have written about it long before me. The fact is that some businesses are nervous. Actually, much more than nervous. Since they didn't get an amnesty thru nor any additional worker programs they feel left out in the rain. They're fearful of getting raided by ICE and local laws taking effect but they don't want to do anything that causes them to have to go up on wages. So they fall back on the typical,"We're not immigration agents, and they had the right papers, so how were we to know?" Other businesses try to insulate themselves by using "contractors."

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I'm so sick to death of this moron.

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I've been beating this drum for a long time. Yeah, it certainly looks partisan if look you at the politicians, but NOT if you look at the voters. Some have tried to label it as a conservative thing. I don't buy that either. A lot of PEOPLE opposed this bill for different reasons. Let me bring up Rasmussen, again, because I think his poll clearly supports my contentions. No, I wouldn't hang my hat on one poll result but it goes much further. I can't tell you how many times I've seen comments from democrats or republicans that denounced another amnesty. Look at almost any publication that allows comments from readers and you'll see what I mean.

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